Unfortunately, meetup.com, forums and Facebook groups wouldn't work so well in Ukraine, because not so many people have computers and internet connection, and even fewer have smartphones. This is why a public forum is a better option, because it will make people turn up there physically. In Ukraine, real world communities work better than online ones. Online forums and Facebook groups are not really taken seriously, even by some young people.

Communist Party of Ukraine exists because people participate in it in real life rather than on the internet, even though it's by far not the best community. Being a part of something physically rather than virtually means a lot to people of Ukraine.

After all, I lived in Ukraine myself, and I visit it every summer.

[Yuri-B], I agree with an idea that the person's wealth depends on its network. These days we have meetup.com, forums and Facebook groups where people can meet. Isn't it enough to get people connecting locally?

[Mindey], okay, this makes sense! I see your point on the educational value. The purpose of the platform is problem solving indeed, rather than ideation. We should take time before posting problems and ideas then.

[Mindey] [ruta] This solution has multiple dimensions : 1.) People will have a space to connect with other people, who are outside their circle of friends. Basically, enable them to form "weak connections", as mentioned in this article : https://medium.com/@vernonluke/how-your-network-could-be-killing-your-career-prospects-5817b7d650a4. This will improve their chances of getting jobs that they may not be aware of.

2.) When the subject of economic opportunities will be discussed at a community level inside those initiatives, rather than individual person's level, there will be a sense of leadership and better division of labour. Then people who will participate in those initiatives will have better chances of earning more money, and will eventually figure out how to leverage communities in order to build up wealth.

The real problem is not only peoples' mentality, but a lack of leadership that steers them towards building up wealth. Ukrainian government doesn't really know how to lead people towards generation of wealth, so something has to fill that void.

On point -- people will not be able to share their know-how openly as long as they are paid by companies with intellectual property hiding policies.

The idea of financial think-tank includes the rationale, that if we enable people to directly get paid in society, without intermediaries like companies, -- the society gets the know-how!

[ruta], so you want a full-fledged hierarchical network? Well, sub-problems are easy to create by creating a foreign key to the problem itself. Just like we currently have with sub-works. However, this kind of structure would make the person who tries to understand the creation of something -- much harder work. Ideally, we want the problem solvers to do the work of breaking down the problem into sub-problems (e.g., milestones) that are exactly necessary and sufficient to solve the problem. This will make the structure clear and understandable for future learners.

If the future learner will have to go through complex mazes of the thinking of original creator, it will make the learner's life harder...

[Cabria], can we name this project to something like "Global Business Startup Guides Compendium Project" or something shorter? :)

[ruta], heatmaps are only a way to display the click density,... Your problem is to collect data points about the eyeballs first, and infer the actual words and topics read from that data, - the mouse pointer data, and other data.

good idea, which certainly is doable. So many statisticians, computer scientists and data scientists working on computer vision. What you need, is a higher resolution cameras on computers, or existing solutions (tobii) to use your eyeballs as mouse.

[Mindey], how about heatmaps, to get the data on how I interact with the page?

[Cabria], :) When I was going through that stuff myself, it was a pain! And usually these topics (company registration and taxes, etc.) are not covered at startup accelerators. Everyone and anyone needs more clarity on that.

_> Maybe we could make tags like [idea-here] for indexing little ideas. _

[Mindey], good idea.

In situations when we start with one problem and through a conversation we realise that the problem is not the route problem, it'd be nice to have an option to click a button and create a sub-problem. Same for ideas. When one problem/idea sparks sub-problems and ideas, what functionality do we need to allow users to organise them?

When we have conversations which are off-topic to a particular page (just like our chat about features is off topic to an idea of a book), do we need functionality to allow users to move off-topic conversations to a different page? Which page?

[ruta] yes! Exactly! You get it now :) That stuff, yes, and then the country specific things as well - how those things change according to where in the world you're based/basing.

> it's for people who are actually setting up real businesses and need to find information quickly, easily and in a manner that makes it easy to understand

[Cabria], ah, got it! Yes, the first thing I had in mind was about how to set a startup business which is focused on a web-based product. That's a different problem and idea indeed.

I agree, there's a massive pain point around understanding how to register a company, write a biz plan, find an accountant, register for taxes, get some funding, and other things that anyone who's turning their project into an actual company [in any country], needs to do!

[Cabria],

_> information on setting up a business in Ireland - the types of business, how to incorporate, some information on tax and VAT and a bit of information on case studies, perhaps. _

This info would be very handy. Are you thinking of getting some information from citizens information website and LEOs, but providing it in a more understandable format? Finding info on tax and VAT is complicated. It'd be great to get more clarity on all that in one place.

In terms of actual website building, I used Squarespace for my website (as I was bored with Wordpress). I got a domain from Godaddy.com. Or, we can invite some friends who can help out with Bootstrap.

So you're saying [Mindey] that in time, infinity will allow businesses to have their own customisable profiles on this, complete with integrated accounting, taxation, digital marketing, simulation labs and other services, all in each business profile and in a sort of gamer style, with graduated levels for the stage each business is at? Cool. Can't wait!

[ruta] what do you think, as a start?

[ruta] Thanks. I'm glad you like the idea.

Yeah, it could be used by students as well. But really it's for people who are actually setting up real businesses and need to find information quickly, easily and in a manner that makes it easy to understand. Sure, some students will also be actually setting up real businesses but I wouldn't over-focus on this. Maybe there could be another goal focused on how to bring practical entrepreneurial / business opportunity and learning to students. Suggest new 'Goal'/'Problem' on Infinity for this. (We can share hyperequity - I'll take less as it's more your interest.)

I wouldn't limit it to online either. That seems pointless, as things work a little differently when run entirely online. Also, a lot of businesses relocate or specifically choose to locate in a specific country for reasons other than tax breaks etc. E.g. as I mentioned, geographical data particular to different countries being useful for choosing a place to set up. Like, you're not going to set up a surfing school business online (well, you could but it wouldn't be very hands-on and the teaching would be very limited, only videos and things like that :-/ ) or in, say, Austria. (Again, you possibly could, if there's such a thing as lake surfing but again business would be limited.) I think there's an over-focus on digital / online business nowadays. Yes, it's booming etc but we shouldn't neglect face-to-face and other business models. One of the problems of our time is and will be lack of proximate and physical contact between people. We should avoid exacerbating that.

I think I'll try to build a basic website for this. And if people want to join in, brilliant. I'll link when I have something for ye. Meantime, if anyone else wants to begin, go for it. {1}

[ruta],

When people chat, what people can/should do next? Do people chat until they find the perfect solution to a problem or, chat until someone gets an idea, and then jumps into tasks and tries to implement it?

On the problem page -- yes. However, we should not post arbitrary ideas, just because they remotely seem to solve the problem. Post, when we have a brilliant idea. On the idea page, we should then talk more about the validity of the idea itself rather than search for ideas.

If this idea stays in the comments I and everyone will forget it.

Nothing is forgotten here. :) Maybe we could make tags like [idea-here] for indexing little ideas.

[Mindey], I'm not sure about something in terms of idea/solution stage.

What's the purpose of the system?

User flows:

When people chat, what people can/should do next? Do people chat until they find the perfect solution to a problem or, chat until someone gets an idea, and then jumps into tasks and tries to implement it?

For example, we had a chat with z about the problem "Enabling People to Earn More Money". We discovered that the root problem is a lack of the role models. So, I came up with an idea of a book.

If this idea stays in the comments I and everyone will forget it. I'd like to save it in some ways and try to implement it with people, and see if it makes an impact towards the problem (not necessarily solves the whole problem).

[ruta]

Also, we need a way of letting any user to flag content if an idea doesn't provide a solution to a problem, and encourage an idea owner to edit a problem or rewrite an idea. We have a task for this as well.

Yes.

the meaning of solution is not the same as of idea. How do people see both terms?

Yes, people who need water come up with an idea to carry buckets, and that becomes a solution. We could define an idea as a general solution, that frees everyone from having to solve that problem ever again.

and... would this idea solve the problem completely? An idea that qualifies for solution should solve the problem completely, with high probability of success. Maybe this should be a rule on our idea posting?

[Mindey], Perhaps. At the moment it's not entirely clear how to describe an idea. We should think about what guidance will help users (myself included) understand. (We have a task for this).

Also, we need a way of letting any user to flag content if an idea doesn't provide a solution to a problem, and encourage an idea owner to edit a problem or rewrite an idea. We have a task for this as well.

Although, the meaning of solution is not the same as of idea. How do people see both terms?

// I added a different problem that relates to this idea more. //

[ruta], where? link?

[Mindey], you're right! I added a different problem that relates to this idea more.

What's more important than teaching people how to make money is teaching people critical thinking and fostering motivation. We should translate an idea you talk about on your blog and share it here. I really like the motivation part.

[ruta], and... would this idea solve the problem completely? An idea that qualifies for solution should solve the problem completely, with high probability of success. Even if such book existed, I think, this book alone would not solve the problem. Let's post systematic ideas that would actually completely solve a problem. Maybe this should be a rule on our idea posting?

[ruta], how the book would let people make money? Provide the choices? I've thought about something along the lines of introducing kids with all possible jobs when writing this, however, I think just presenting all possible jobs is not a good way to facilitate thinking. Instead, it seems like a way to restrict thinking.

Ah.. and, the whole 'Book on Future of Jobs' - very cliché idea. A problem? Just write a book on it. Not very creative, not a solution that would present some innovative new principle.

[Mindey], okay, got it! An Idea becomes a plan when it has timeline, people, tools, etc. Thanks!

The book could be similar to "What Do People Do All Day?" written by Richard Scarry.

[Cabria],

_> Lonely Planet for business. Really easy to understand / follow (like the 'For Dummies' books), easy to navigate and easy to read. _

• Nice idea. It'd be very handy tool even for school projects. More students start to think about entrepreneurship as a career path, the problem is -- where do I start?

A specific project for this idea could be a website that explains the best practices of how to set up an online business step by step?

[iulia-link], you might like this idea! It relates to the problem you posted on how to enable people to earn more money. :)

Hey [Yuri-B], good to see you here! :)

I see the point of your idea - we acquire knowledge through people. Fostering local communities is important, although enabling people to interact with global communities and acquire different kind of thinking is even more important. I was just reading an article on personal networks today.

[Yuri-B], welcome to the Infinity Project! It seems like one of the solutions, of course, however, we have to be more specific, how people would make money via such initiatives. Could you elaborate?

[iulia-link], mentioning you, as it is relevant to the problem you raised :)

[ruta], originally, the difference between a project and an idea is that a project concerns specific group of people, using specific tools, trying to deliver specific deliverable. Just reducing the generality of an idea does not make it into a project. Adding concrete people and tools and scope does. Idea can be very specific and detailed, like a patent, but it is not a project without specific time and space, people, tools, scope in real world. :)

[Mindey], yes! we get a lot of feedback these days, so worth starting to share ideas for product features and milestones here.

[Mindey],

be more specific in the naming, because this 'Online Behaviour Tracker' is very general, could refer to much more than eye-tracking. Maybe 'Online Reading Time and Topic Tracker'.

-- this is a project then, not an idea anymore. no?

[ruta], btw., be more specific in the naming, because this 'Online Behaviour Tracker' is very general, could refer to much more than eye-tracking. Maybe 'Online Reading Time and Topic Tracker'.

[ruta], good idea, which certainly is doable. So many statisticians, computer scientists and data scientists working on computer vision. What you need, is a higher resolution cameras on computers, or existing solutions (tobii) to use your eyeballs as mouse.

Hey [Justin], what else do you think it's worth tracking to measure what people learn when they browse the web?

[ruta], wouldn't we want to have more public discussion about the project itself right here? :)

[Cabria], just let's leave a tag, like [marked-for-deletion] (redundant). Later, we can delete at some time in the future, when we have house cleanup. We should have some kind of house cleanup over time.

[Mindey] - would be good to be able to archive things like this Idea, once there's a consensus that they've already been implemented. What do you think? Deleting seems a bit harsh...

Espresso books - Perfecto! That's super, [Mindey], thanks for sharing that. Great. It's already done. :-P Tick.

[Cabria], sure, will keep you informed :)

Ah, looks a lot like our project, but we don't yet support these features. It would require much work with law in many countries, etc... [Cabria] :)

I'm thinking, once we have all tasks going, to integrate with 3D Study Maze thing.

[Cabria], sorry. I thought about publishing. I remember Google Books had previously offered the option to get books, which are out of print, printed, and delivered. I guess, they were using the Espresso Book Machine (video). Maybe there is an alternative to it, but to start such a company, I'd assume you'd have to lease or buy such a machine.

[Cabria], [Luke], let's do this!

" Packt’s mission is to help the world put software to work in new ways, through the delivery of effective learning and information services to IT professionals. " - Totally different mission. They're providing an education tool Does not address the problem at all. I don't know how the two would be confused?

Order to Print is more about out of print books. I'm talking about existing books or books that used to be in print and not limited to any particular sector (Packt target IT sector). Order to Print would also allow an author to avoid the risk of paying a huge amount of money for thousands of copies of their book to be published without knowing if people will actually want to buy it and at the offered price.

So, for example: I run 'Order to Print' Ltd. You, an author, approach me with your new novel and Ruta approaches me with her new cookbook. The book is designed and pretty much ready to print, can easily be sold as an e-book. I have an online catalogue of ebooks that readers can peruse. 200 people purchase the ebook of your novel but 20 people want a hard copy of it. 20 other people want a hard copy of Ruta's cookbook the same month. So I print 20 of each and send them to the requesters at the end of the month.

That way, I don't print shitloads of hard copies that will then end up on disheartening discounts or recycling bins with their barcodes removed. And if the hard copy of Ruta's cookbook is in high demand, I can print more and more of it as people request it and sell them.

It reduces the waste of overprinting and allows more control over the whole process. It also acknowledges the diversity of people's preferences for ebooks/hard copies.

Packt is totally different, does none of this, and is completely irrelevant to this discussion. Sorry.

[Cabria], there are such companies! Pact Publishing for example. What is missing to consider this baked?

[ruta] great. i have a lot embedded in memory too. we can hash it all out together in a google doc w/ luke ?

[Mindey] can you let me know when equity partners are addable so i can add ruta to this one?

[Cabria], :)) I should go through my notes and our IM chats, and add other ideas that we come up together!

[ruta] great, thanks :)

[Mindey] - Super! That's brilliant. Exactly. This happens a lot and all contributors should get credit. - This exactidea has to give some credit to Ruta.