Guys, I was thinking how to make it easier for people to share on infty.

People have thoughtful discussions over email. We have time to think about what we want to say over email because we're not forced to respond just like we're over real-time chat. Why not make it easy to add such email conversations to infty by allowing people to cc ideas@infty.xyz ? This way people wouldn't need to leave a space where they have conversations but they could still preserve the knowledge on infty, and share it.

(x.ai works similarly, you just cc an AI)

[Mindey] [aliev] [george]

One idea from the past by [aliev]: if a comment looks like a milestone, or a task, we should make it possible to convert it into it.

Did you realize that people can actually stay anonymous while using infty? For discussions, I think this is a good thing. It is possible to register a free GitHub account, and to register with GitHub, a person only needs an e-mail. There had been an attempt on Citizendium to use real-name-policy, but Wikipedia seem to do just fine with anonymous authors... [ruta], [aliev]

I guess, such daemon could only work with those phone or computer apps, which provide a local API to other applications on the system. Not all apps might need this. If an app has a public API, no need to query the device for information.

The device daemons could only be useful for accessing things not available otherwise, e.g., apps that don't provide public API, things on the system like photos on the phone, which are not uploaded to any cloud services.

Regarding the marketing aspects -- it is easy to spray washable dye on glass. Perhaps vacuum packaging might be a little of a problem, but we could use metal for that, couldn't we?

While good for cold climate zones, it is not suitable for hot climate zones. It could be, if we used induced electricity with Peltier thermoelectric cooling elements though.

Looks like there is already something related: magnetic fields vibrates water to prevent damage of organs during freezing (2011).

But you know, I would rather call it "strategic partnerships" or "knowledge exchange" or "consensual mutual supervision", or something else.

A "coach" associates with "trainer", and training associates which Pavlovian conditioning, which is a lower order mental activity than reasoning.

Look what smart people say about learning -- "stop learning, and start thinking" (TED, Jacob Barnett).

Thinking together -- that's what I would call it.

Could easily be done by an AI bot in existing secure meessengers, which you friend when you need debugging yourself. You could start from a rule-based system with a set of questions, and end up with something more advanced like a Bayesian net or a probabilistic program, enhanced with deep neural nets...

By all means :-)

Hi Mindey, hope this reply reaches you. Yes, by all means link to my HB ideas :-)

[PaulHDear], do you mind, if I link to your ideas from Halfbakery to here?

It would be very easy to realize, if one had a database of said questions.

The graph above, currently is not representative of the project as a whole. However, I will try to make it such some time soon. The problem with evaluating the vaue of the Infinity project, is that it has the potential to affect diverse fields. We're talking millions of startup companies to be created via Infinity project.

Btw., regarding the possible ways for getting return on investment into Infinity:

• projects' equity
• github model (e.g., pay for non-public space for projects, but I would like it be free space for non-commercial projects, like TeamViewer does if that is the case)
• membership fees
• pay-per-action (e.g., posting a problem in public may incur a fee)
• credit purchasing (e.g., user may purchase credit, and some actions like posting new public content may eat the credit)
• pay-per-payment (e.g., fraction of payment)

It would also be useful for people who want to move when connected to medical life support devices that are too large to be implanted.

It would probably also be easier to cryopreserve people, if they are in standardized vehicles.

It may also be under-estimated, how many physical injuries and infections could be prevented, if people used HiveCells for life ;)

I've already done some preparation work {3} needed to start working on this, that is, prepared my blog for use of WebPPL. That is, for example, if you open section on What are PPLs?, you can actually execute the probabilistic code with "Run" button. It is in the style of dippl.org -- an interactive tutorial. However, this allows us now to communicate easier.

Locally, I run this with:

npm install -g webppl

Note: Regarding the society's intent modeling, I've had a recommendation to read this paper. {?4}

I stopped for a while, to resolve a resource acquisition problem with more immediate projects... But will come back.

// make information of the past, present, future universally accessible. //

Looks like part of Google's mission. Question, regarding Google's mission -- what is meant by universally useful?

[z], so, here is an estimate of cost in terms of human hours of mine, to realize your project. You can include the milestones into your main project if you like them, and we could actually start this project. The best case scenario is in yellow, the most likely one is in green. (Lithuanian colors!)

You can also invite other people to give their estimates, and then, cherry-pick the milestones into your plan by clicking "Include/Exclude" button, and then, you may ask people (even different people) do these separate portions of your plan.

[Cabria], I liked this idea. It turns out I'm working on something similar but on a broader level not neurotopcics as I don't know anything about it.

What about the name like 'Z-Tracker Project'? :) We found that it is a good practice to come up with unique names for projects. Think, Apollo. I'll come back to this some time soon.

[Mindey] Thanks for taking a look! I have a goal which is here: https://infty.xyz/#/en/@/topic/96

The hope I had here was to create several different ideas for tracking personal energy.

We might also, for example, track personal energy using 1. heart rate variation (using an H7) 2. reaction speed (using e.g. tetris scores)

Neither of these would be as unobtrusive as the eye reader.

The goal here is to track the personal energy, which can be used for many purposes (for example to try diets or find good music). I still think this structure is good. Maybe you can suggest some specific changes to make it more fitting?

As far as names I would probably call it infty-eye-tracker or z-eye-tracker or something else very simple (maybe eye-energy?) because naming is very time consuming :)

I think there is some reason to think it can be done on a smartphone which would be best because they are pretty cheap and have good docks available.

So, this tracker would measure my blinking rate? How would you call it? Would you want to start a project based on this idea, called something like a BallTracker[TM], or something even more kicky? :)

Looks useful :) However, an Idea is, as denoted in idea creation form is a Goal-less principle or invention. An Idea on Infinity is not a business idea -- not something to be worked, on, but something to be discussed about.

If you want to write something to be worked on, a Plan may be a better content item to go with :)

[Eimantas] Hi, welcome to try out our updated site ;) Btw., how it is going with Crrency?

[ruta], for writing the analysis scripts and keeping the analysis results on your own hard drives ;)

[Mindey], what purpose would you use it for? there are various tools for social media analytics/social listening that allow to see feeds, searches by keywords from multiple accounts in one place.

https://hootsuite.com/ is the most popular one.

Decided to try it with Drupal first, because Drupal alrady has all the needed functionality. E.g., multilingual interface, multilingual translations, easy addition of mathjax, etc. So, just install it, and see how it works for people to discuss math papers from MIRI and elsewhere.

Just for a reference: https://www.drupal.org/developing/api/8/render/pipeline

Makes sense, but I have one problem with this, -- how do we define 'safely'? Who and how decides about the 'safely' component? Different countries of the world have their own definition of what is safe.

Obviously, safety is what ascertains achievement of goals. Without knowing goals, we have no practical definition of safety.

[ruta], what about inviting the members of OpenAI to talk here about their plan? I think to do so, a bit later on, when I have a video about description of our rationale.

Is this description okay? :) Not sure yet. Seems like Stephen Wolfram thought of something like this.

Now we have the essential features: 1) knowledge framework, 2) true multilinguality, 3) credit system.

Perhaps could use the connection, similar to which is used for the airplane mid-air refueling.

[ruta], [shamkir], seems like this approach has found its way -- in the news The FDA Just Approved One Cancer-Killing Virus. Expect More. :) I think, if a project is already existing, it would be nice to link it and make a virtual project (e.g., extra field .is_link (e.g., plan.is_link = True))... Wrote to possible tasks :)

To start a milestone, use link +New Step.

Oh yeah, it's just as mentioned make learning not a chore, make it as a computer game.

[paulmwatson], when we are writing ideas in public, we expect something new, see our guidelines on help:

// Ideas [Solutions] - think like a halfbaker, nothing is impossible! Be speculative! //

The ideas section is for innovation around problems.

Yes, codes of conduct can be a solution mitigating intercultural misunderstanding (and thus, facilitating diversity), though they are widely known to exist, so, it's not a conceptually new thing.

[paulmwatson], good idea. Who should determine the community guidelines though, a community leader or community itself?

The deeper problem of why communities need code of conducts is a lack of empathy, understanding of communication among people and a lack of critical thinking skills. People acquire all of this.. by interacting with other people.

A technical executive: "You have a tool to solve problems... What problems?"

"Any. Personal or global. Personal, let's say you want to quit your job and start your own business. You'll spend days, weeks, months, sometimes years talking to your friends and family about your problem, but quite often you won't do anything about it and stay where you are -- at the problem mode. The same applies for global problems. Let's say you are annoyed by seeing rubbish on the street. You keep complaining to your friends, but don't do anything to improve situation. With Infinity, you get a structure to move away from the problem and take action to get what you want," I said.

An accountant professional: "So, how does it work? You have a problem, then think about a solution, project, milestones and tasks, you say. With our business, the hardest thing is implementation."

"I agree, what people usually lack is resources - human capital, financial capital or knowledge. People with skills, know-how or money. On a daily basis it can be hard to find the right people. Let's say I want to make education better, so I want to connect with teachers. How do I find them? I need to go to schools, look for online forums. It takes time to make friends. It's easier with our platform, you already have all the people, together, in one place. I don't need to look for people myself, content is what connects us. I don't need to look for teachers because teachers are there talking about problems they care about," I said.

An accountant professional: "I have lots of problems. Can I try? Some for my business, some personal ones. My family member has a disability so we have to approach problems differently."

"I agree, that's why conversation is important. We focus on comment based problem solving," I said.

A business executive: "My true passion is food. I used to make shoes for vegans and vegetarians. I used to use plastic type of leather for shoe making. Now, no ones knows how to make shoes anymore!"

"You know, our goal is to collect procedural knowledge on how things were made. Next time you want to open a shoe factory, you can do so, because you know how people did it in the past," I said.

A designer: "Schools would be most suitable IMO. It would teach young people to communicate with each other and express their thoughts."

This book could have a mobile app with Augmented Reality functionality. Similar to this.

Or, connected Virtual Reality app, where people could actually "experience" new professions.

[Justin], you have Muse. What's your opinion on current EEG trackers?

[ruta], this is an interesting thought! What materials would it be made from?

Perhaps the first step is to make things like muse itself transparent.

Hey [Cabria], do you have any thoughts on how to ensure that such an EEG tracker provides accurate data on brain health?

[ruta], very good observation. Indeed, selections during the reading could be used as data source, and a browser plugin could be made to collect that information on all websites you visit. Statistical models could be constructed to filter that information, but it would be much more accurate to have eyeball trackers, like the mentioned (tobii).

[Mindey], if we think about how people read online, we'll see that many of us highlight text while reading. My assumption is, when we highlight text, we reflect on what we are reading. I use various web clippers to save content for later (i.e Evernote). I also use Rescuetime to track my web browsing behaviour. Maybe there are simpler ways to solve this problem instead of tracking eye balls?

Unfortunately, meetup.com, forums and Facebook groups wouldn't work so well in Ukraine, because not so many people have computers and internet connection, and even fewer have smartphones. This is why a public forum is a better option, because it will make people turn up there physically. In Ukraine, real world communities work better than online ones. Online forums and Facebook groups are not really taken seriously, even by some young people.

Communist Party of Ukraine exists because people participate in it in real life rather than on the internet, even though it's by far not the best community. Being a part of something physically rather than virtually means a lot to people of Ukraine.

After all, I lived in Ukraine myself, and I visit it every summer.