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I like this idea, though there are other ways -- we could ask shipbuilders to build us a seascraper, and regarding lands, we should try to eventually onboard land providers with their land offers on 0oo.li/products, and then use the market feature to buy it from them for results coownership.

You could do transactions of £100 at a time. And eat the 3% fee on deposit or withdrawal.

A problem with microtransactions is fees.

It costs a lot of money to handle a transaction if you're doing business transactions of money.

I just used my credits to buy one of the products. That means, in my balance, I should see that some credits I already spend?

[justinmiyamoto], your result appears to be either not public, or incorrect. What I'm seeing is this. I suppose, your result is about a UI design or improvements? Try making google drive link publicly visible.

Furthermore, a button "Cashout" next to "P&L" on user profile would complete the journey of "working on ideas in society" by enabling to transfer money from 0oo virtual wallet to an online bank of that user.

Virtual Wallet is something I'd like to explore too at least as a thought process imagining how would it look like on a user experience side (e.g. I click a button and x happens). We could then sketch it on Google Slides, test it with real people (I'm up for it!!) and then make a plan if it's feasable to develop technically in future.

I feel it's useful to enable people to collect money thru 0oo from investors and then transfer that money to their banks, so that they can spend it in a real world today.

How about polishing User Profiles to showcase a "wholeness" of a person and where they are making impact in the world?

I mean, a profile should give a summary of where in the self-actualisation journey an individual is:

• P&L Balance

Showing how much hours they declared and how much they got as an investment. Balance should always be aimed for "0" as equality between input and output. If it shows "-", it is a good indicator that someone from 0oo community simply needs to fund this person, to bring them to balance. On society level, when 0.5 bn people use 0oo, this feature would lift a human race from struggle to abundance and enable working on ideas!

A user profile also should give a summary of what an individual deeply cares about and how they contribute to the collective whole:

• Meta Categories

• Projects, Latest Results

• Ideas

• Questions

I suggest this order because it goes from zoom-out view ("Meta Categories") to zoom-in view (practical stuff like "Projects") and then into a zoom-out view again (a background story like "Ideas and Questions"). This order was brainstormed with [justinmiyamoto].

Overall, profiles would give people hope and confidence in their ability to contribute to the world's course (Projects), showcase links with a global community (Ideas, Questions) and enable people to live on ideas (personal P&L).

I'm really motivated by this Feature and would love to explore together how we could visualise this! Welcome your thoughts :)

Reading an interview with ecologist and writer D.Abram, I loved how he describes everything being alive (sensuous earth) and he talks about words as magic.

Then, a friend mentioned Japanese word "Kotodama" that means "soul of language" and "sacred sound".

I'm curious how I can infuse the magic into words with MUTANTU book..

[justinmiyamoto], well, we have got to have file uploads, ideally we'd provide extra cryptographic proofs of authenticity that way (whatever not provided by links), and it's not as hard, definitely, one of the things to do next. Though, to conform with the style of 0oo, we'd likely only have file previews on mouse hover, as we're focused on helping textual ideas, and want to avoid the distractions as much as possible ;)

For mainstream appeal, I feel like the ability to upload and share images in the posts and comments is a must. But I understand if that's a hard task and if that's not the direction of 0oo.

I've got to mention, that the way 0oo works as a HomeBase, is a bit inspired by my favorite game, called "X-COM: UFO Enemy Unknown", where humans have to manage bases to defend Earth from Alien Invasion with management of resources. So, that's why each project has "Locations" (click image next to "+[Transfer]"), and my old idea of "Goal tracking and resource management" database. :) Anyway, there were really many things in fact, that inspired it. That fun could actually start in real, if we realize this idea that could be like an economic X-COM for good.

Welcome [justinmiyamoto]!

Oh, I have questions too to add to this thread. I see HURS as "everyone declares time they spend on projects, no matter if it was a writer or an engineer, and this way all work is equal". [Mindey], what do you think about that?

But then, what is the value of declaring hours for a creator like me? Can someone come on 0oo and invest into my project directly, so that I don't go to Kickstarter? This is relevant for me now for my book project.

Also, what's the key motivator for investors? Why would they come to 0oo to invest? And is it really an investment or more like a donation?

And what happens during the transaction now? Does money go to my bank somehow?

And what happens with P&L when transaction is made?

Well, asking a question is the first step to clarity :) Thank you for listening to my questions!

Great to hear that, [justinmiyamoto], and I hope you find this place fun to be. We are actually seriously thinking about these problems of economy and money. The precise definition actually is at the bottom of the rates page, and you can the historical fluctuation of all currencies as measured in HUR by downloading our database. ;) Feel free to ask questions if something comes up on mind as you continue to explore~ ^__^

Wow, thank you for commenting so thoroughly Mindey. Makes sense! I'm very excited about the potential of 0oo. I've been thinking about these problems for a long time and I'm so glad someone is working on it. Excited to try some of my projects on here.

Hey [justinmiyamoto], first of all, welcome to the 0oo :)

// For example, if I work for someone for 1 hour, I should be paid 1HUR by the person I worked for.

Was your work okay to be published or mentioned for the world to see? If that is so, this place is for you. Then, you use HUR here only as a unit of measure. For example, if your production or service COST was 50$, you would use the button "+[result]" under a project in question, and write 50$ / HUR = 4.95 HUR under the work result that you declared (or just write 50 USD, and our system will evaluate the HUR equivalent). Note that HUR is not something that is distributed or traded -- it is a unit of value that we show for information purposes, not a currency.

Further, if someone paid you for your costs, and they are okay to publish information about the fact of payment, they can register that fact under project with "+[transfer]" button, and register it. Payment can have the work results matched up, so that they cancel out (for example, if the payment was of 60$, the total ledger value would be 10$ in the end), this way, producing a ledger for the public to see.

What comes out of this activity of creating ledgers of works and transactions under project, is informational, and displayed as community credit and funds above your username. Once we have more projects in the community producing real products, we are considering that this community credit will be useful as a form of currency to make (at least partial) payments for things you can buy on our market section.

// Also, what if I do work that doesn't benefit someone who works like a baby?

You can declare hours by registering expenses for whatever you did, in public here, and that will add in to your "credit score" on this community.

I hope this explanation is understandable. Does it make sense to you? You can always take a look at fluctuating value of HUR at 0oo.li/rate.