[Mindey], a biodiverse city where humans work from home, walk and animals freely migrate crossing the city.

This may actually be part of a more general problem of integration of services, and generation of user interfaces.

Practical challenge - design something, that an octopus and a cat could equally easily use.

A sub-problem is that insights generated at virtual conferences stay as video recordings.

[Mindey]

// For example, the first three symbols: ["0", "~", ">"] coincide with what we have with H-Base as ['Categories', 'Ideas', 'Projects'] //

"0" in individual thinking logging means "a mess" rather than specific goals or research questions. It's a stream of thoughts before synthesis happens.

[transiency] It seems humans choose to monitor say dogs with brainwaves for the sake of promised understanding. Is there a different way?

How about humans stop "asking for evidence" and admit by default that all species have needs to exist.

I've seen a camera, i.e., GetNarrative, but it definitely does not support typing or sketching notes (though can record video and audio). So, how would such a jewelry support those features like sketching and taking notes?

For this to be feasible there needs to be some way of automatically measuring the energy impact of a website.

So you'd have to instrument a browser to see how much resources the website uses.

You could measure network bandwidth transmitted and CPU usage by the website.

Aww, was this like "Low Energy + Website" + GUIDE? So +GUIDE (in a google doc) = idea? We could put +GUIDE for whatever problem, and will immediately become an idea? It's more a request for solution than a solution, thus, I'd suggest having this as a category. An idea should present some actual method, not a combination of two concepts (in this case "Low Energy Website" + "Guide").

How this is better than all other methods? Why not a video? Having it in google docs, would also be limiting, as for example, they are not accessible in some countries, so not a very universal way either.

Suggest moving it to Category...

Thanks http://gauthierroussilhe.com/en for inspiring this problem question at IAM Weekend 2020 happening online: https://www.iam-internet.com/weekend

Well, for one, I'd say, we could move a lot of shared JavaScript and CSS libraries to browser, and I have an idea on that.

May be useful even for making order in our categories for imported data even here, on 0 -> oo :)

Link: China says Japan-developed drug Avigan works against coronavirus

// A company can have facets of other companies running through it.

It can, in many ways. For example, one company (e.g., company=government), can provide a platform for companies to function. Other companies are simply functioning as subsidiaries, and others still -- provide part of the ecosystem that governments do not provide, for example, co-working spaces, web assets, like block-chain infrastructures, and so on.

All that being true, we're searching, I think, for a good mix, that would enable our community to function perfectly fine, even on an isolated island, or on Mars, providing the basic economic services, like a normal country or a union would.

The way I see the generation of stocks right now though, is the same as products, -- i.e., a project can issue its stocks as products, for investors to buy.

// 0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

Yeah, who said we should be doing 0 -> 1, if we can do 0 -> ∞? Those who do 0 -> 1, usually don't get the benefit of scaling, and stay poor. Zero-To-Infinity, means a focus -- both to create things that didn't exist before, scaling it. :)

0oo meaning: from zero to infinity ?

So, now, we're starting with actual project's sharing, sharing of it with people in problem domains, to get people solve problems together.

It is time to call for know-how to be shared. Here is the latest example--

An Italian hospital ran out of ICU valves. A local biz brought a 3D printer to the hospital, redesigned & produced the valves in a few hours.

“At the time of writing, 10 patients are accompanied in breathing by a machine that uses a 3D printed valve.”

" A source (La Stampa) also says the supplier was not happy with that and refuse to provide blueprint files in order to speed up the work."

via Twitter

//How might we understand feelings of other beings?

A project called 'No More Woof' aims to read dog brainwaves, translates to speech.

New question: do the dogs want this?

Fundamental question: How might we understand feelings of other beings? With what kind of language?

// Humans are part of a larger natural ecosystem but decisions are made only thinking about one specie - humans

Indeed so, and a very important point. Dogs could give a profound level of insight into the world of smells, if they could only translate that over to others.

Since this is something tied to app development itself, it is something that we'd ideally support at the app development frameworks level. And, probably it's better to support it not at the app level, but at the browser profile level, or phone user level, and allow very easy switching between users, or even -- allowing to be logged in with multiple users to the same phone at the same time, to get all pertinent information. Cause, now every app developer is reinventing the solution to this on their own at the app level --- Google has one way, Telegram has another way, etc. Mobile banks being often less tech-savy, don't implement it at all.

First-Aid Kits that everyone have at home and in cars could include a mask and antibacterial liquid. Small additional, but essential.

// By all means :-)

It's sad to see you go, Max... So, I am thinking of bringing your ideas to life here, to change the future and past, and actually getting them realized through a similarly fun process, that they were discussed.

And I'm hearing you saying, do so, by all means.

Well, at this point, the best that is out there, is certain note-taking systems. Some come close to the ideal than others. For example, zim-wiki.org is pretty good for desktop, and for people without coding skills. Something like, e.g., Dynalist mobile is off-line first, meaning you can make notes while offline, in some jungle or a subway. However, in neither of these systems you can actually reply to your e-mails, or do other advanced actions, like those that you can do with Telegram bots. Now, imagine that your knowledge system (something like Dynalist) had something like Telegram bots for certain lists (e.g., list of E-mails from your malibox), that let you call actions on them. That is what we'd want in the personal and private knowledge, -- ability to take actions on remote systems directly from it. That would ideally be implemented by a bunch of open source drivers, and I envision that could be one of the applications for the metadrive, which is still not production-ready. However, I think it would be great to have all systems that we need to think and decide at the user's fingertips, in a simple way.

Humans impact life on Earth for all species, so it is key to enable people to think better.

"there is no single tool to coherently combine them all the personal research that individuals have into their personal, reusable, actionable and programmable digital assets" -- A tool for organising knowledge and know-how into personal libraries would be helpful.

If anyone's curious. What I'm trying to do right now, is to make at least one full order, where the shopping experience would feel good. So, thinking of modal windows both for product previews on the eXchange, and also, by clicking on the produce items in the project view.

Modals, cause that works. One thing that worries about them though, that they require JavaScript. So probably we can sacrifice that, by loading it in the "Exchange," cause that's supposed to be a modern experience, and avoids jumping forward and back (to product and back to search results).

So far, only technical matters in the making even a single croissant for sale on Homebase.

// "0" means questions or research notes.
// "~" means ideas or synthesis.
// ">" means projects with tasks within.
// "!" means goals with habits within.
// "-" means archive.

It somehow relates to idea of Tagfixes, and overall our search for pragmatic way to organize information. For example, the first three sybols: ["0", "~", ">"] coincide with what we have with H-Base as ['Categories', 'Ideas', 'Projects'], and ['!'] also falls under ['Categories'] according to H-Base ontology: Having goals (=categories) leads to ideas, which in turn leads to plans (=projects), at least in theory., but more personal. :)

Oh, and I've seen you do something like that on your DreamWidth! The symbols are nice!

Well, contratulations with creating a project, and looking forward to you sharing work results folks here on H-Base :) I think having a consultation with designers may be worth a shot~ Actually, AFAIK Neruthes's got a passion for it, always making and tinkering with design improvements to existing sites using scripts at Scrlo (demo).

Looking forward to designs and demos!

// A link between gut health and mental health is interesting to me.

[Ruta], would that be a the category of "psychosomatics"?

You mean, like, posting without usernames? Maybe. We actually can try that.

Mindey surreptitiously opens a new publicly anonymously editable page of Dynalist, and adds it as a link. (See links).

A link between gut health and mental health is interesting to me.

A key question that would redefine economic development: What kind of conditions are needed for co-existence?

Further thinking is very welcome. Key question - how can a need for self-actualisation and co-existence co-exist?

I have schizophrenia. It makes life harder than it needs to be.

// You did not define what is Togetherism here.

In a sense I did, "thinking and deciding together." We are the borg.

Isn't Wiktionary (linked) -- such an attempt? Like Wikipedia, it is liberally and openly editable by users. It even has an API, so one could imagine making a bot, that introduces words by analyzing world's web content.

// How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, ..., or even a Comment without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

I think it would make most sense to have a Telegram bot for each Category, Idea, Project, and so that comments posted in them would automatically be synchronized with autogenerated Telegram channel for the topic.

However, that would mean creating a new Idea would have to be like creating a new Telegram channel. This could be done by Telegram API. However, that kind of bot would have to automatically create new users on Homebase, using usernames of Telegram users, and do something sane when there are multiple users with same usernames, basically generate accounts on Homebase. The recipie to automate creation of group is:

from telethon import TelegramClient, events, sync
from telethon import functions
api_id = XXXXXX # Get on https://my.telegram.org
api_hash = 'YYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY' # Get on https://my.telegram.org
client = TelegramClient('session_name', api_id, api_hash)
phone = '+ZZZZZZZZZZZZ' # (verify with other live connection)
client.start()
# Doing stuff:
created_group = client(functions.messages.CreateChatRequest(
        users=['inyuki', 'mindey'],
        title='Intent 5: Creating Deep Connections and Love in Society'
))
chat_id = created_group.__dict__["chats"][0].__dict__["id"]
invite = client(functions.messages.ExportChatInviteRequest(chat_id))
print(invite.link)
# client.log_out()

And, I think this would not make sense by default, only perhaps to be customly enabled for certain ideas, when the conversation size reaches some point.

How about making a Telegram bot that posts an Idea, Project, Category or even a Comment to any of existing Ideas, Projects, Categories without me going to my browser? It would save me time on mobile for sure..

You did not define what is Togetherism here.

A company can have facets of other companies running through it.

// I wanted to talk to you about covid-19. do you think the right measures are taken? [Alina]

Regarding Regarding COVID-19, I think, there may be insufficient or inadequate measures regarding superspreaders — people who love to meet people, travel a lot — mostly business people, who don't even wear masks in meetings, just because it's more convenient not to.

Those who meet 10x more people than normal people (say, because they are frequent flyers, conference attenders and so on), have also this tendency to desire more freedom in form of convenience, and direct facial rapport (cause maybe reading faces and hanging out is part of their business, and wearing a mask would be stigmatizing, having a good health insurance and coverage, they may think they can afford to risk getting infected).

Whatever the reason, those who have to meet 10x more people, need to have 10x greater protection measures, to prevent superspreaders from activating. What 10x measures would be? If 1x is just putting on the mask in conferences, then 10x probably suspending non-essential travels, and moving meetings to on-line and telepresence.

Related - Coronavirus prevention via social distancing is very effective.

So, how do we define communionism (Wikipedia)?

There's a huge difference between communism and communionism.

I want communionism which has your definition.

[chronological], me as well. Among the most generic UIs that I've seen so far, are that of dynalist for unstructured data, and airtable for structured (tabular), relational-database-like data. However, neither of them are good enough for complex hypergraphs, I suppose.

It may be something like a power-mode extension for chromium :)

This would reduce the barrier to entry too.

[尹与及], I think it's because of grander implications. Having many worlds may affect our estimates for the probability of life and diversity out there, but both astrophysics and cosmology allude to the laws of physics, studying which we are approaching to the answers about their origins.

There does need to be a way to re-invest in open source software. I thought of an open source subscription before. But getting people to pay for it when it seems free....

N2 tuples are enough. You can define N3 tuple as two N2 tuples.... Or, you meant Notation3 format?

Yeah, exactly! So, as to keep it non-distracting. There are just too many places to keep notifications on :)

Very low probability, but still, possible to do something about it. So, -- for x-riskers.